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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 17, 2009 4:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

I consider myself to be more cynical than idealistic but some of the comments here makes me rethink.

Here's what I'm feeling. The Grateful Dead, to me, have always been the ultimate AMERICAN band. Not just by representing and incorporating all forms of American music - old time, bluegrass, blues, rock, jazz ( the only uniquely original American music ) but also they have always represented all the qualities that make our Country special - hard work, creativity and imagination, teamwork and independence,self reliance, spontaneity ,risk taking, non conventional, crazy fun, pushing the boundaries, and above all else freedom.As much as some cringe at politics and think they're selling out etc., isn't it the least bit cool that they've been recognized for this? Why should only Springsteen and top 40 artists always get to participate?

And as far as our soon to be President - regardless of who you voted for and who you trust, isn't his story American too? I never looked at the race thing with him, honestly I liked how he represented himself more than the others, BUT I can totally identify with him on some levels. I'm of Spanish heritage on my Dad's side and unlike my sister ( who got more of my Mom's anglo traits ) I pretty much grew up having to answer questions of what am I? Where am I from? All the while I've always been American, love our countries history etc, and yet sometimes you can't help but wonder why some people make you feel like you aren't or don't somehow belong. So here's this guy that didn't grow up a silver spoon, is of mixed race and had to come to terms with that growing up, and to top it off like so many unfortunate kids ( luckily I don't share this one in common with him )grew up with his Dad having abandoned him. He could of felt sorry for himself or dwelled on the race and other things etc. Instead he made the ultimate amount out of achieving the American dream. It's not completely unlike my favorite band. Never quitting or stop believing they CAN'T do what their passion lead them to.

So maybe this sounds cheesy but I've decided rather than being disgusted that my band isn't underground anymore, I've decided to be happy that they get to be a part to represent this Country they love just like I do. And regardless of what anyone thinks I firmly believe Jerry would have felt just as honored as the others are and he would definitely been just as proud to play this.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Jan 17, 2009 11:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/ladycat_2006/Political/obama-Smoking.gif

Celebrate Barack Obonga! There are gonna have a high time in Washington DC. I don't know when it starts, but that Springsteen concert at the Lincoln Memorial is gonna be on HBO tomorrow for FREE. No scramblers at all for the show. Just enjoy the ride and get high in front of your TV.

It might be on C-SPAN too. Either way it will be like the Grateful Dead on New Years eve - no fucking commercial interruptions in the middle of a song. Yay..


This post was modified by cousinkix1953 on 2009-01-18 07:10:06

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

I may be wrong, but didn't the band visit the White House at the invitation of Al Gore back in '93?

As a resident of Hawaii, what I found very cool about Obama's inaugural music choices were his invitations to a number of our local musicians to play there. I was talking to a local slack-key guitarist that I know just the other day who had been invited to play. These guys are excellent, but unknown outside of Hawaii. The Dead, Stevie Wonder, Beyonce, and all the other famous names have had their praises sung already. I'm glad Obama is letting some lesser knowns attend too.


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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

" I may be wrong, but didn't the band visit the White House at the invitation of Al Gore back in '93?"

yes. And not only that but Jerry shook Strom Thurmand's hand of all people. Kind of put's things in perspective no? Ain't no time to hate, barely time to wait.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jan 18, 2009 7:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Great post JOTS, and I agree with the sentiments regarding the heritage of the band. I'll leave out whatever logic the band has for doing this gig, it's their political capital to spend.

But, besides being a uniquely American Band, they are also almost 100% of the time uniquely misunderstood when exposed to public scrutiny. I can see it now, "Once a behemoth on the summer rock and roll touring circuit, the Dead is now a feel-good bunch of aged hippies playing their Golden Oldies for a new generation of multi-cultural Obama supporters."

The media always, without fail, gets it wrong, and subjects our guys to an unnecessary embarrassment. There is never an attempt to really uncover or display the intellectual merit that's responsible for the vibrancy that remains to this day.

I hope they have fun, I'm sure they'll enjoy it in a twisted inside joke kind of way. The bottom line is that they're surely out of their element.

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Jan 18, 2009 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

"Once a behemoth on the summer rock and roll touring circuit, the Dead is now a feel-good bunch of aged hippies playing their Golden Oldies for a new generation of multi-cultural Obama supporters."

Sounds pretty spot-on.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 17, 2009 8:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

well said Johnny. I am with you on the American band thing. I can't think of a band that is more so than the Dead. Springsteen is probably a close second and I do think he is also an American original but thats him not the band.

So do you think the All American Band is going to play US Blues or Throwing Stones at the event?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 17, 2009 8:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Dylan?


And if American includes North American, and thus also Native American, I'd also mention The Band.

But I agree with everything said above.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

oh yeah that guy. I guess he should be in the conversation too. Although I am not sure he would be the best choice for a ball.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Probably not - but he did publicly support Obama (which I don't recall him doing with any other candidate).

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Poster: Pork Soda Date: Jan 17, 2009 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Los Lobos,
or The Beach Boys.
Well, they're not really The Beach Boys any longer,just some original members rehashing the favorite tunes from their glory days.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Los Lobos would be a great choice.

If Jer were alive, could the boys pass the security clearance?

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jan 18, 2009 10:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

You are 100 spot on. The Beach Boys have to be the ultimate american band

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Poster: Bassy Twang Date: Jan 17, 2009 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

For one, I'd shit on th toilet seat and chicken blood my neck upon exiting the port a potty in a screamin P Funk Rage.... diaper included.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

I met Gary Shider on New Years - was that you?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

yeah, BD it is ethnocentric to assume the name American only applies to our Country, but I meant the U.S.A. I'm not one of those rabid ethnocentric patriotic types myself but I do have a special fondness for the revolutionary nature of our Country.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

as do I.

Since you're post, I've been trying to think of another band that combined as many musical elements as the boys, or mined similar veins, and I can't think of one. Names come up (Allmanns, Little Feat, etc) but are immediately discarded because they don't have the depth and breadth of "american" music. blues, jugband, ragtime, tin pan alley, motown, reggae, avant garde, gospel, bluegrass, etc - it all and everything else seems to find its way in there (even Disco Dead!)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 17, 2009 9:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

" Springsteen is probably a close second and I do think he is also an American original but thats him not the band. "

Like mentioned I'd put Dylan ahead of Springsteen but I do like and respect Springsteen. I wasn't knocking Bruce, I just wanted to note that he gets to often carry that American mantle and I think our band deserves to as well.

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Poster: tank_tuba Date: Jan 18, 2009 5:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Very well said. Just let me add one to your list of special qualities the Grateful Dead possess.
Generosity.
To date the Good Ol' Grateful Dead have donated more than 8.4 million to the Rex Foundation.
That's one big, fat helping hand right there.

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Poster: ganges Date: Jan 17, 2009 10:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Thank you for this post JOTS, I'm from Europe and have always loved America/the US, especially but not only the music, and I have quite a few friends there and have lived in CA for a while. Growing up in the 60s I felt attracted to the West Coast/music from the beginning.
I think you put it very well in what you said, I agree and feel very much the same (even though I'm not an American). It took me until 78 to come to SF for the first time. I saw just one show in Stockton (and I just realize it was TODAY 31 years ago!), and I saw two in 72 over here and so I have some great memories.

Just wanted to say that - and I hope they put on a good show.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 18, 2009 4:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: thoughts on the Dead playing the inaugural ball

Hey ganges

I'm so glad you took my post in the context that I meant it. I certainly wasn't coming from the ( valid )stereotype of the arrogant American. I'm glad you didn't take it that way. Thanks